Comments on: Hafs: The Lying, Unreliable Transmitter of the Quran https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/ Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:51:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: JAY SMITH & THE EXTANT MSS FOR ISLAM – Answering Islam Blog https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-13195 Mon, 09 Sep 2024 01:51:10 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-13195 […] Hafs: The Lying, Unreliable Transmitter of the Quran […]

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]]> By: QURANIC VARIANTS AND PREDESTINATION – Answering Islam Blog https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-12335 Sat, 19 Aug 2023 06:23:51 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-12335 […] Hafs: The Lying, Unreliable Transmitter of the Quran […]

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]]> By: THE IMPERFECTLY PRESERVED QURAN – Answering Islam Blog https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-10951 Fri, 16 Sep 2022 20:35:09 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-10951 […] Hafs: The Lying, Unreliable Transmitter of the Quran […]

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]]> By: Kriss https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-10937 Wed, 14 Sep 2022 01:07:03 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-10937 Amazing! He was a Liar in Hadith meaning He lied about the pedophile Muhammad and the pedophile “Prophet” said “The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire.” – SAHIH Bukhari 106

So HAFS is in Hell-fire and muslims trust a person who the great pedophile said will be in hell.

Yo guys imagine if John the disciple was accused by all of the top disciples and Early Church Fathers to be a liar and a cheat and yet we read the Book of John can you imagine how much muslims would accuse us of trusting John “the liar” ? now if we do the same muslims don’t accept it what hypocrites

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]]> By: THE 1924 ARABIC QURAN: AN UNINSPIRED HUMAN COMPILATION – Answering Islam Blog https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-8722 Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:26:32 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-8722 […] Hafs: The Lying, Unreliable Transmitter of the Quran […]

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]]> By: Adam N https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-8636 Wed, 29 Sep 2021 09:14:58 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-8636 Thanks for this article. There are many individual variants uniquely read by Hafs among the canonical readers. Academics have noticed how most of those do not show up in vocalised manuscripts of the first few centuries, except as part of secondary non-canonical readings whose diacritics were added later to some manuscripts. Even al-Tabari hadn’t heard of them. Doesn’t inspire confidence in their authenticity. Hafs’ transmission as whole does not show up for several centuries in manuscripts as it was so lacking in popularity. For a quick run through how the various academic developments over the past year impact Islamic apologetics on this topic I recommend the new article https://quranvariants.wordpress.com/bad-apologetics-quran-preservation-and-variants/

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]]> By: Jai https://islamunmasked.com/2020/03/01/hafs-the-lying-unreliable-transmitter-of-the-quran/comment-page-1/#comment-4514 Sun, 01 Mar 2020 17:46:37 +0000 http://islamunmasked.com/?p=5767#comment-4514 WOW! Just imagine if the sandal were on the other foot and there were orthodox Christian scholars (because those are all orthodox Sunni scholars) saying that one of the gospel writers was unreliable, used to steal things and was a liar. How much of a field day would Muslims have with that?

Of course, the opposite is true and we have an authentic chain of narration from John. We have Polycarp, Irenaeus, Ignatius of Antioch, Polycrates, Melito of Sardis, etc etc!

Now back Hafs. Muslim scholars, whom they trust, admit that Hafs is a lying, untrustworthy thief. In a kal va’chomer type of argument: if can’t trust Hafs when it comes to hadith (the less important), how can you trust him when it comes to the Quran (the most important)?

Muslims got some ‘splain to do!

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