In the following articles, rebuttals and video,
Muhammad, Cross-Dressing, and the London Muslim Patrol http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2013/02/muhammad-cross-dressing-and-london.html
Are Diapers Now Women’s Garments? http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/diaper_garment.htm
Cross Dressing and Islam: An examination of Muhammad’s Dress Code http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Abualrub/mhd_cross_dressing1.htm
The Meaning of Mirt and Thawb http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Abualrub/mhd_cross_dressing2.htm
Reexamining Muhammad’s Cross-Dressing: A Muslim Dawagandist double-crosses his readers by covering up the truth http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/shamoun/rebuttals/abualrub/mhd_crossdressing3.html
Muhammad’s Cross Dressing: Appendix: Further References www.answeringislam.net/Responses/Abualrub/mirt.htm
We provided conclusive proofs from the Islamic sources that Muhammad would dress up in the garments of his wives, specifically the clothes of his child bride Aisha.
In the following “rebuttals,”
Aisha’s Thawb: Was It A Blanket Or Dress? [Part 1] https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/11/18/aishas-thawb-was-it-a-blanket-or-dress-part-1/, [Part 2] https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/11/18/aishas-thawb-missionary-deception-unveiled-part-2/
A particular Muhammadan has also decided to take a stab at trying to refute this clear, explicit witness to his prophet being a cross-dresser. Let’s see how well he does.
First, let’s get his lie and deceit out of the way:
Given that some of these missionaries have tried to argue that thawb here means ONLY clothes (dress) that a woman wears and nothing else, we are going to present verses from the Bible where Prophets are said to have thawb on or wrapped themselves in.
He repeats this shameless lie more than once:
Given that some of these missionaries have tried to argue that thawb here means ONLY clothes (dress) that a woman wears and nothing else, we are going to present verses from the Bible where Prophets are said to have thawb on or wrapped themselves in.
Those missionaries who would still continue to claim that thawb is a woman’s clothes and COULD NOT mean blanket or a sheet, then I say you have a very big problem, and this is, Jesus according to the Gospels is recorded to have thawb on:
What makes this blatant distortion even more shameful is that I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS CANARD IN THE VERY ARTICLES AND REBUTTALS THIS NEOPHYTE CLAIMS TO HAVE READ AND IS TRYING TO REBUT! Note what I actually wrote:
As the readers can see for themselves I NEVER ONCE SAID THAT thawb ONLY REFERS TO WOMEN’S CLOTHING! My purpose was to show that thawb refers to the clothes that a person wears, and therefore by extension can and does refer to women’s clothing.
I also went on to provide several lexical sources in the appendix to prove that thawb means clothing in general WITHOUT EVER LIMITING IT TO WOMEN’S CLOTHES. In fact, the very Quranic verses which I cited in my reply to prove that the word refers to clothes in general should have been a signal to Jalal THAT I WASN’T ARGUING THAT thawb ONLY MEANS THE CLOTHES THAT WOMEN WEAR since some of these Quranic passages also included men.
SO THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A BLATANT LIE on Jalal’s part AND PROVES THAT HE WASN’T ABLE TO REFUTE MY ACTUAL ARGUMENTS AND THEREFORE DECIDED TO ATTACK STRAWMAN.
The readers may be left wondering that since the word can also refer to men’s clothing how can I therefore be so certain that Muhammad was wearing women’s clothes. The answer comes from one of the very hadiths which I cited:
… So Um Salamah went and talked with the prophet but he did not respond to her. When the group asked her what the prophet said she told them that he did not respond. So they asked her to go talk to him again until he responds… then the prophet said to her, “Do not hurt me with Aisha, for the inspiration did not come upon me when I was IN A WOMAN’S GARMENT (fee thawb imra’ah) EXCEPT THAT OF AISHA.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Hadith Number 2393)
The above narration clearly specifies that Muhammad was wearing a WOMAN’s thawb or dress, specifically the garment of his child bride.
In light of the above this means that Muhammad was guilty of violating the command of the true God which expressly prohibits men wearing WOMEN’S thawb or clothes. Here is the Biblical text as it appears in Jalal’s “rebuttal”:
“Neither shall a man put on A WOMAN’S THAUB: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God” (Deuteronomy 22:5).
Now I could simply end my rebuttal here since this sufficiently shows that Jalal couldn’t refute my actual points and so decided to spend the bulk of his “reply” attacking a strawman, refuting an argument I never made.
In light of the foregoing, it is obvious why this neophyte decided to attack a straw man. Like Abualrub before him, he knew he was incapable of refuting the actual points that I raised which conclusively prove that his prophet was a cross dresser.
With that said, let’s now quote the very lexicons this Muhammadan cited to see whether they prove his case or mine:
“ثَوْبِ, A GARMENT, (M. Mgh, Msb, K,) [or piece of cloth] … Es-Sarakhsee uses the phrase … (thiyaab). Mh) … [He clung to the curtains of the House of God], i.e., to the curtains of the Kaabeh… (A.) – Sometimes, ثَوْبِ, is used metonymically to signify a thing [of any kind] that veils, covers, or protects.”(Edward William Lane’s Arabic-English Lexicon (Dictionary) volume 1, page 362)
From Al-Andalus to Khurasan: Documents from the Medieval Muslim World:
“The price depended on the quality of the textile AND THE KIND OF CLOTHING PURCHASED. Three pieces of cloth (thawb) were brought for 20 1/3 dirhams (P. Marchands III 43.3); four pieces (thawb) for 21 qirat (P. Marchands III 41.9-10); a piece of cotton (al-thawb al-qutn) for 14 ½ dirhams (P.Marchands III 36. 12-13)…” (From Al-Andalus to Khurasan: Documents from the Medieval Muslim World [Brill, Leiden, Boston, 2007] by Petra Sijpesteijn and Lennart Sundelin page 157)
Al-Mawrid, Modern Arabic-English Dictionary:
“GARMENT; DRESS, ROBE, GOWN; SUIT, COSTUME, cloth, ثَوْبِ, fabric, material, GARB, CLOAK…” (Al-Mawrid, Modern Arabic-English dictionary, by Rohi Baalbaki, Lebanon (1995) Page 404)
William Thomson Wortabet – Arabic-English Dictionary:
“ثَوْبِ, GARMENT, cloth. Actions, deeds…” (Arabic-English dictionary by William Thomson Wortabet, John Wortabet, Harvey Porter (1984) Page 59)
Talk about an embarrassment! The very lexicons that this neophyte cited to refute my argument actually end up confirming that thaub DOES IN FACT REFER TO CLOTHING, GARMENTS, ROBES, GOWNS, CLOAKS etc.!
What makes this “rebuttal” all the more laughable is that he quotes a list of verses from the Arabic Bible where the word thawb is used WHICH ACTUALLY PROVE OUR POINT! All the verses he quotes end up refuting his entire argument since they confirm that the word DOES mean garment, clothes, robes etc. Check them out for yourself:
Psalms 133:2, Aaron:
“It is like the precious oil upon the head, That ran down upon the beard, Even Aaron’s beard; That came down upon THE SKIRT OF HIS GARMENTS (thiyab); مثل الدهن الطيب على الراس النازل على اللحية لحية هرون النازل الى طرف ثيابه. “ ((Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation) ASV Psalms 133:2)
Joshua 7:6,
6And Joshua RENT HIS CLOTHES (thiyab), and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of Jehovah until the evening, he and the elders of Israel; and they put dust upon their heads. 6فمزّق يشوع ثيابه وسقط على وجهه الى الارض امام تابوت الرب الى المساء هو وشيوخ اسرائيل ووضعوا ترابا على رؤوسهم.” ((Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation) American Standard Version, Joshua 7:6)
And Jesus:
19 And Jesus arose, and followed him, and [so did] his disciples. 20 And behold, a woman, who had an issue of blood twelve years, came behind him, and touched the border of his GARMENT (thawb): 21 for she said within herself, If I do but touch his GARMENT (thawb), I shall be made whole. Arabic: 19فقام يسوع وتبعه هو وتلاميذه. 20واذا امرأة نازفة دم منذ اثنتي عشرة سنة قد جاءت من ورائه ومسّت هدب ثوبه. 21لانها قالت في نفسها ان مسست ثوبه فقط شفيت.” ((Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation) American Standard Version, Matthew 9:19-21)
And John 19:2 (Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation):
“2And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and arrayed him in a purple GARMENT; 2وضفر العسكر اكليلا من شوك ووضعوه على راسه وألبسوه ثوب ارجوان.“ ((Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation) ASV, John 19:2)
This next case is even more embarrassing:
“6and shall put thereon a covering of sealskin, and shall spread OVER IT a CLOTH all of blue, and shall put in the staves thereof. 6ويجعلون عليه غطاء من جلد تخس ويبسطون من فوق ثوبا كله اسمانجوني ويضعون عصيّه. 7And upon the table of showbread they shall spread a CLOTH of blue, and put thereon the dishes, and the spoons, and the bowls and the cups wherewith to pour out; and the continual bread shall be thereon: 7وعلى مائدة الوجوه يبسطون ثوب اسمانجون ويضعون عليه الصحاف والصحون والاقداح وكاسات السكيب. ويكون الخبز الدائم عليه. 8and they shall spread UPON THEM A CLOTH of scarlet, and cover the same with a covering of sealskin, and shall put in the staves thereof. 8ويبسطون عليها ثوب قرمز ويغطونه بغطاء من جلد تخس ويضعون عصّيه. 9And they shall take a CLOTH of blue, AND COVER the candlestick of the light, and its lamps, and its snuffers, and its snuffdishes, and all the oil vessels thereof, wherewith they minister unto it: 9وياخذون ثوب اسمانجون ويغطون منارة الضوء وسرجها وملاقطها ومنافضها وجميع آنية زيتها التي يخدمونها بها. 10and they shall put it and all the vessels thereof within a covering of sealskin, and shall put it upon the frame. 10ويجعلونها وجميع آنيتها في غطاء من جلد تخس ويجعلونه على العتلة. 11And upon the golden altar they shall spread a CLOTH of blue, AND COVER IT WITH A COVERING of sealskin, and shall put in the staves thereof: 11وعلى مذبح الذهب يبسطون ثوب اسمانجون ويغطونه بغطاء من جلد تخس ويضعون عصيه. 12and they shall take all the vessels of ministry, wherewith they minister in the sanctuary, and put them in a CLOTH of blue, AND COVER THEM WITH A COVERING of sealskin, and shall put them on the frame. 12ويأخذون جميع امتعة الخدمة التي يخدمون بها في القدس ويجعلونها في ثوب اسمانجون ويغطونها بغطاء من جلد تخس ويجعلونها على العتلة. 13And they shall take away the ashes from the altar, and spread a purple CLOTH THEREON: 13ويرفعون رماد المذبح ويبسطون عليه ثوب ارجوان 14and they shall put upon it all the vessels thereof, wherewith they minister about it, the firepans, the flesh-hooks, and the shovels, and the basins, all the vessels of the altar; and they shall spread UPON IT A COVERING of sealskin, and put in the staves thereof. 14ويجعلون عليه جميع امتعته التي يخدمون عليه بها المجامر والمناشل والرفوش والمناضح كل امتعة المذبح ويبسطون عليه غطاء من جلد تخس ويضعون عصيه.“ (الكتاب المقدس ((Van Dyke Arabic Bible Translation) ASV, Numbers 4:6:14)
As the context of this passage from Numbers shows, thaub is being employed in reference to a cloth that is meant to cover up specific material objects or items. As such, it is completely irrelevant in determining the meaning of thaub in those contexts that refer to human beings covering themselves with clothing. And yet even here thaub still conveys the sense of clothing, i.e., the items were to be clothed with a piece of cloth.
Now this dishonest Muhammadan gives away the real reason why he doesn’t want these narrations to mean that Muhammad used to dress up in women’s clothes:
“The reason why “cloth”, “blanket” or “sheet” is more appropriate translation for the mistranslated Hadith reports, is because this is how it was classically understood…”
Talk about circular reasoning! It is a given that classical Muslim scholars would want to interpret thaub in these particular instances differently, since which Muhammadan would dare admit that their prophet liked to dress up in women’s clothing?
The fact is that, contrary to the desperate polemics of this neophye, there is NOTHING in these hadiths that would remotely suggest that Muhammad clothed himself in a blanket or sheet.
With the foregoing in view, we do want to thank this Muhammadan for helping us to further strengthen our case and bolster our claim that his prophet was a cross dresser who loved to dress himself up in the garments or clothing of his wives, especially those of his child bride. We truly appreciate it.
With that said, we still have one final argument to refute in the next part of our rebuttal https://islamunmasked.com/2016/11/21/aishas-garments-uncovering-another-muhammadan-lie/.
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